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What have you got in mind? To replicate the scale / tonic controls from the factory setups?

If you're on the hangout this evening maybe we can have a bash at it face to face (or face to screen..)

At the risk of seeming naive, why not use split 2 and put the tonic / scale controls in the small upper keygroup?

HI Randy,

Splits are merely several keygroups that are dividing up the keyboard area due to their selection of keys. When they're connected to the same upstream keygroup output, they're active at the same time and effectively split the keyboard.

The factory setups that allow one keygroup to change the scales of another keygroup, don't rely on mode key behavior. There's a collection of talkers that each set the scale for a particular keygroup. These talkers are connected to a 'scale selection keygroup' where each output enables the talker that belong to the relevant keygroup. In essence, the phrases in the talkers are pretty simply, like "keygroup 2 hey scale to minor set". In the factory setups though, they're a bit more complex since the actual names of the scales are dynamic and can be changed through the EigenBrowser.

Hope this helps,

Geert

If I wanted to make a setup with mulitple splits I would do the following in workbench, starting from a blank setup:

1 - Create the alpha manager and wait for the keyboard agent to appear.
2 - Make a keygroup. To match the factory setups you can then rename this 'main keygroup', since we're not going to use this for playing - we're using it to hold other, smaller keygroups.
3 - connect the keygroup directly to the alpha keyboard (at the top level so all the similarly named ports are wired up for you)
4 - edit the keygroup musical keymap, and use the 'choose on keyboard' button to enter choose mode. Press the keys for your keygroup (the whole keyboard) in sequence. Press the last key twice to finish. You can do this fairly quickly by running your finger down each course in turn.
5 - connect the alpha keyboard key output to the mode key input on the keygroup (you have to expand them both to do this)
6 - set the mode key column and row inputs to your desired main mode key location.
7 - create new keygroup outputs on the main keygroup, by clicking the tiny 'create new' button on the output slot in the main keygroup. These 'outputs' are your splits. You then need to edit the keygroup to position these outputs (this determines where the red/green lights that you select the splits with appear). They default to 0,0 which makes them invisible.
8 - create keygroups to go into each split. Say we made 2 splits, and we want split 1 to be one big keygroup, and split 2 to be a 50/50 split. Make keygroup 1, 2 and 3.
9 - expand the outputs slot on the main keygroup so you can see keygroup output 1 and 2 that we made in step 7. Connect output 1 to keygroup 1, and connect output 2 to keygroups 2 and 3.
10 - press your main mode key, and select split 1
11 - edit keygroup 1 in workbench and choose its musical mapping. By selecting which course to choose in the dialog, you can select the five columns separately to make 5 courses. Leave a gap at the bottom of the keygroup for the main mode key and octave buttons etc.
12 - go to split 2, and choose mappings for keygroup 2 and 3 - make them the top and bottom half of the keyboard.
13 - now you're setup with two splits you can wire up instruments, a console mixer and an audio agent.
14 - To get scale controls like the factory setups, you need to make more keygroups, and connect them to outputs on keygroups 1-3, choose their layout etc, make mode keys for keygroups 1-3. Then you can add talkers to the scale keygroups.

Let us know if you need help with any of those stages (I know 14 is a bit vague - I'll write this up in more detail if you want).

@Oberon - Thanks so much for the details. I will work through these tonight/over the weekend.

@John - Count me among the interested. Thanks.

Another approach that has been around for a while.

http://www.eigenlabs.com/wiki/1.3/Midi_implementation_chart/

This works great with v1.4.x. I saved a setup with both MIDI Out and MIDI In ports routed. Normally, I don't set a MIDI In as I don't send any MIDI messages to the Harp. I set MIDI In port to the port I have my MIDI keyboard routed. Changing scales, tonic, etc. works fine. I can see the benefit of having a foot controller if I was going to use this alot.

One thing I'll point out. The wiki post alludes to using the MIDI In for this, but it doesn't explicitly instruct to set this up. So, look at the quick guide for whatever harp you have for how to choose the MIDI In port browser. I couldn't readily find that in the Tau quick guide, but luckily David Harvey created a nice guide that I use often for those combos I find esoteric or use less frequently.

Thanks again, Mike for popping this tidbit out of the stack.

Randy

Oberon -

I used your steps to create a setup with a main keygroup controlling 2 keygroups and 3 splits. Outputs created in 'main keygroup' and wired to split keygroups. Mode key displays and is selectable. Musical maps were set for all 3 splits. Wired in AU's, console mixer and audio (settings I believe are correct for these, i.e.: plugins selected, routed to correct mixer channels, audio params setup).

No sound.

First thing I noticed, when choosing a keygroup, the tonics are not lit. Have double checked the setup against your instructions and all looks fine.

I've probably missed an implied step along the way. Any ideas?

Randy

Yes, all of the audio settings are in place. Set that up in the agent and checked the menu.

Thanks for the reminder about the scaler agent being the control point for keyboard lights. Will make that adjustment. Perhaps it will also solve the no sound issue.

Thanks.

Thanks, John. As soon as I get a chance, I'm going to re-do the setup from scratch. If I have no luck still, I'll send you the setup for a review.

Randy