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If that's coming from EigenD then that's a bug. EigenD does phone home when it runs, if it can, with a very small amount of information (it tells us what version is being run on what OS, so that we know when we can retire support for old OS's and how many people are still running old code) but that is bytes of information, it shouldn't even get into the K, never mind MB. We don't send anything that could constitute a privacy violation, I hate that kind of thing. The only circumstances when it might be sending that kind of volume of data is when you've used the bug reporter, as it bundles up a great pile of debug stuff and sends it with the report, but this should only happen once.

Just to be sure, are you certain it's coming from EigenD? If you are then we'll go hunting for it.

John

Absolutely sure it's coming from EigenD. Maybe bug reporter is stuck or something. It runs fairly regularly, about once a half hour, and seems to blow about 16mb upstream. I can package up the network dump if you want to pick at it. I unplugged the laptop for the performance I just did, and when I plugged it back in, it started up again. When EigenD isn't running I don't have such symptoms.

EigenD also sends a UDP packet every two seconds or so but I reckoned that's it's "hi there" for Stage to see, That is not what I am seeing. This is a fairly chunky data dump being sent to Eigenlabs.

Given how long I've had my Alpha and the number of versions, setups, etc, I wouldn't be surprised, but this took a while for me to finally pin it to EigenD.

Like I said, it's reproducible so I can provide a dump of the conversation, if you don't see anything on your end coming from harriman4.net. It should be in a log on your end somewhere too.

I haven't reported a bug in 1.4 bugreporter in ages, by the bye.

That's really weird, it shouldn't do that indeed. Can you check if there's something in your user Library/Eigenlabs/Bugs directory? That's where the queued bug reports live before they're sent out.

Deleting it is a quick fix indeed. If you're up for it though it would be interesting to leave it and see if the upload succeeds eventually, deleting the bug report when it's done. Could it be that it was never able to stay connected long enough to send the file?

Also, 68.1MB is gigantic, I'm curious to see what's in there! :-)

I moved the file out and, well, no massive network upload stuff happened on the next restart. The capture I did had over 80mb from when I started it, so I wonder what's going on with the upload to eigenlabs.... I'll move it back and let it roll again. And I have no idea why it's so huge. O_o

Perhaps the size of the file or the time it takes for the transfer to complete is causing the Eigenlabs server to not send a 'yeah I got it ok' back to the application.

Well, David, I think there is something in the EULA about anonymous data and I don't mind that part. I can deal with the small UDP packets too. And leave it to me to have the crash dump from hell.

In January I was having a lot of crashes, pushing the envelope with convolver files and apple loops and Alpha Setup 3. This particular zip file I think was related to that.

It would however be nice to have an indication, at some point, that EigenD is in the throes of sending a bug report, and that the bug report was in fact sent. I might have figured this out for myself, but it took me long enough to figure out the correlation between leaving EigenD running (which I do a lot) and network problems on my house's LAN, which is more complicated than a lot of small business LANs. There are over 25 networked devices in this house, not counting infrastructure like switches, routers, or firewalls. With kids playing Steam games, consoles, backups, wireless webcams, Vonage and Skype, there were many paths to explore. It was only because I had labeled every switch port in the house that I figured out who was yapping. My switches are smart enough to keep segments apart, which complicates sniffing, and I separate traffic types like the phones from the main house LAN.

But live and learn. I'll know for next time.

Hi Paul,

We're still concerned about the size of that bug report file. Do you still have it? Could you put it somewhere that we can download it from, maybe through DropBox or another file sharing service?

Thanks,

Geert