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written by: sam

Hi all,

Thanks for your input Geert - you are quite correct.

With regards to the MIDI input and output within EigenD and control thereof, we will be uploading documentation about the various Belcanto Agents that deal with MIDI to the wiki in the coming weeks - I will keep you updated on this here, or keep an eye on the RSS feeds for more information.

Sam
Eigenlabs Software Department

written by: bluedonkey

Mon, 10 May 2010 14:46:08 +0100 BST

Is it possible to get the Eigenharp to send it'd data on channel 2 rather than 1 ? Kyma automatically maps it's control surfaces to channel one so at the moment the 2 are conflicting.

Thanks

Kevin


written by: barnone

Mon, 10 May 2010 16:38:36 +0100 BST

Hi Kevin. You are using Kyma? Nice.

Yeah it is possible. On the Alpha there is an advanced Midi page where you can change the midi channel. I'm sure the pico has similar. Don't have more details than that.

Do you have a paca(rana) or capy? The reason I ask is that the new OSC midi drivers for the paca(rana) from Delora soft are really excellent and provide less latency for me then going through external midi interface. I also haven't had a conflict issue on ch 1. I'm using Delorasofts vM2 motormix emulation and sending midi to it's provided virtual midi port called "paca(rana)".



written by: 0beron

Mon, 10 May 2010 16:42:18 +0100 BST

If you're using one of the eigenharp instruments that map to the MIDI output (ie not a sampler or an AU, but a MIDI output), then in the advanced MIDI settings page you should be able to select the MIDI channel. On the Alpha you get there by selecting split 1 in any of the factory setups, then the advanced MIDI controls can be found by pressing the keygroup mode key and the keys at the very top of course 2 (there's 2, one for each of the 2 MIDI output instruments). There are then a group of 16 keys to choose the channel - it's all described on page 16 of the Alpha Quick reference (which is actually page 18 of the PDF file).

For the pico I'm not sure how to do it. The quick reference guide is here.


written by: bluedonkey

Mon, 10 May 2010 17:51:14 +0100 BST

Hi,

I guess a couple of glaring omissions.

I have a much loved Pico, perfect for me as it's so small. I looked around the forum, and the quick reference but couldn't find a way of doing it. Hummmm.

I'm using a Paca(rana) and have already followed your advice and got the osc midi drivers. I have a BCF2000 that is plugged directly into the Paca(rana). It is definitely mapped to channel one. I forgot it was plugged in, tried playing the Pico and the faders moved as I played. Cool but not what I was looking for. I've only had the Paca for a few days so I'm still setting it up. I was hoping to use port 2 for a Monome / Ten-orion channel but lets see!


written by: 0beron

Tue, 11 May 2010 10:01:37 +0100 BST

There's almost certainly a way to do this with Belcanto. If someone knows how, please post. I'll have to experiment when I get home from work.


written by: mikemilton

Tue, 11 May 2010 11:02:25 +0100 BST

Well, I use MIDIPipe for mapping controllers etc. It will possibly do what you want.

link: MIDIPipe Home Page


written by: bluedonkey

Tue, 11 May 2010 14:12:55 +0100 BST

Thanks Mike. I built a patch in Max/Msp that works . It would just be good to do this stuff from within EigenD so that I dont add too much latency to my system.

All the best

Kevin


written by: geert

Tue, 11 May 2010 19:17:07 +0100 BST

Here's the Belcanto phrase to change the MIDI channel for midi out 1:

midi controller 1 hey midi channel to x set

(where x is the channel number)

Hope this helps,

Geert


written by: sam

Fri, 14 May 2010 10:25:59 +0100 BST

Hi all,

Thanks for your input Geert - you are quite correct.

With regards to the MIDI input and output within EigenD and control thereof, we will be uploading documentation about the various Belcanto Agents that deal with MIDI to the wiki in the coming weeks - I will keep you updated on this here, or keep an eye on the RSS feeds for more information.

Sam
Eigenlabs Software Department



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