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To route the audio from the pico's instruments into live, install soundflower. Then hold the main mode key on the pico and press the 4th key on the right, to enter Instrument/FX control. From there hold the secondary mode key (the 1st on the right) and press the Midi and Audio Control key, the 8th on the left. Finally, press the second key on the left, Audio Port Browse. You should see soundflower in the list of audio outputs. Select it. I use the 2 channel one although you might be able to route other devices into live simultaneously if you use the 16 channel one.

Then, in Live, go to Preferences and select the Audio tab. Choose Soundflower as the Audio Input Device. Once you have done this, whatever pico instrument you are playing will play into the record enabled track in live. Great for adding effects to the physical model instruments.

Also, instead of having 5 midi out devices on the pico, you can just use the one midi out and switch between record enabled tracks in live. I have the APC-40, so I just press the record arm button on the midi track I want to record into to switch sending midi from the pico to different live devices.

Using plogue bidule you could have the pico send arbitrary ccs into Live to switch banks and do other fun stuff. The way I would do it is by having Plogue Bidule send OSC to Max for Live, and then set up whatever crazy control scheme I wanted that way. That's because I already know Max well and Max for Live gives quite extensive control over Live. But it would be possible get what you want just using bidule if you know which midi ccs to send.

I love the pico and look forward to the release of the workbench, and ultimately to the open source release, which will REALLY unleash the possibilities of the instrument.

Yes, I understand the setup you want. You can get three midi channels with the current release by using Bidule to route the midi sent to the audio unit to whatever arbitrary midi channel you want. That would give you up to 3 midi channels since there are 2 AU slots in the currently released setup.

The problem with midi learn is that the keys are so sensitive that they send CC1 or pitch bend almost immediately, so it's probably close to impossible to get the key event as the first event that live sees so that midi learn works properly. Again, you could use bidule to mask out and prevent the CC1 and pitch bend events being sent to Live so that midi learn would actually work properly.

Happy hacking!

Barnone, that undo trick works like magic! I never would have thought of it, and it is so obvious.

Fzzzy, I am definitely going to look in to Bidule. It's free as a stand alone, but I don't quite feel like dropping $75 dollars to run it as an AU right now. Will Bidule let me sync the tempo with the Pico? Thanks for the help, I got Soundflower up an running, works fine, however I was unable to get the Pico to output to the seperate 16 tracks. Now how would I run say a guitar and a mic plugged in to an audio interface, as well has the Pico?

I was able to get a bus setup to control Ableton, however I would very much prefer Midi CC's, and having each buttons X and Y send seperate CC's too. I would also like to see the Strip Controller work as a pickup deally, instead of jumping to 0 every time I touch it. I can't wait to see what can be done with the WorkBench, and I'm really excited for Open Source!

@barnone swet! thanks for the undo tip!

@quixotic7 thanks for the tip about making an aggregate device in audio/midi setup. that's perfect.

it would be better if live supported multiple hardware interfaces like digital performer but oh well.

as far as bidule, I haven't learned it yet so I don't know how programmable it is, but if you tell me what layout you are imagining i can try to make a Max patch that does those transformations that you can run in the free Max Runtime. It would be awesome to control live with the pico.

@fzzzy Yes, having Ableton handle multiple audio devices would be better, hopefully I won't run in to much latency issues using Aggregate devices. I really need to get Max for live, quite the powerful tool.

@gbevin, yes that is quite the advantage, however I'm gonna wait til the workbench is released and go from there.

Basically what I want to do, probably is not possible right now. In fact I am pretty sure of it. I want to be able to control track volume, send, and pans in the same way you control the volume levels in the drum loop. Hopefully you'll be able to do a lot of crazy stuff with the work bench because I've got a super control scheme worked out in my mind. Like the instrument/FX control mode, I want a second mode key that will allow you to jump to different pages of controls, volume, sends, pans, device, and transport controls. I would also like bank keys for switching between banks of tracks. I want the keys to work like the drum volume control in which you can tilt them up and down.

Basically some crazy control madness that can't be done now. There's probably away to transform notes to CC's, however I don't think that would be very useful except for triggering clips. I already have full control over live, but it would be awesome to grab my laptop, the pico, head to a coffeeshop or a friends house, and fully control live with the Pico.

Yeah, I just noticed that bug too. I have bidule sending OSC to Max, and the pitch bend is basically useless because it doesn't center properly. Hopefully that gets fixed soon.

Also, the Strip controller parameter never goes negative, so that's not useful for pitch bend either, and the Absolute strip position doesn't seem to work at all... guess I should send bug reports for those...

Sending to OSC instead of midi is the way to go since it has a higher resolution. Mackie control messages could potentially be pretty powerful, the trouble is that the Key rocking does not send out separate messages for each key like it does with the EigenD instruments. There may not be enough midi CCs to do this, perhaps make an OSC instrument? We need a way so that each key can be setup so that each of the 3 axis send out information on it's on control. As well as different methods of sending that info i.e. rocking left adds to value, rocking right subtracts, but when you stop rocking, it doesn't jump back, and pitchbend style where it does jump back.

Right now the strip controller is useless for midi, and I did notice that the pitch and modulation don't center properly. Unfortunately I can't send bug reports through EigenD 1.0.9, it seems broken.

Whoops. The forum doesn't properly html escape the input. The // would have your pico's name inside, as set in the OSC daemon UI. Just like the monome.

That's a great idea, and I wish it worked, but unfortunately the pico doesn't show up as a HI device. It was worth checking though :-)

Ive been trying to use the x-y- and pressure for each key to control things in the audio units, as well as the strip and breath control. Even in the midi controller version I cant seem to get data for much of the data that this thing could provide. Mainly im interested in the pressure, as I love how sensitive and articulate it can be. In audio units I cant seem to get anything other then pitchbend and velocity... I really want to use this incredible little device for all its wonderful abilities but at the moment the software end of things is driving me nuts.. Im good with max/msp and I tried finding out if HI or midi cc's for pressure came through but no luck yet...