i just wanted to ask if there is gonna be an unstable/test release of the windows software. i am currently using my friend's mac, but i am hoping that the windows client will arive soon. thanks a bunch for your work.
greets from germany!
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I have no problems at all using Home Premium. In fact, unless you're attaching to a corporate network I don't think there's any real benefit in the extra expense for Pro.i just wanted to ask if there is gonna be an unstable/test release of the windows software. i am currently using my friend's mac, but i am hoping that the windows client will arive soon. thanks a bunch for your work.
greets from germany!
I've just noticed that the website now states that the Windows version of EigenD is expected at the beginning of April, rather than Jan/Feb as was recently stated. I'm glad that I decided to sell a kidney to purchase a mini mac, and in retrospect, I am also glad that I have the reliability of OSX behind EigenD rather than Windows.
I don't know what your funds are like, but it is worth keeping an eye out for refurbished macs on the Apple website. I saved quite a bit of cash on my mini mac, and I paid less than some ebay auctions at the time for the same unit - yet it still comes with a 12 month guarantee.
HI all,
We are currently internally testing a Alpha Test version of the EigenD software for Windows. We aim to release a Beta Test version towards the end of February for Eigenharp players to try, with the full release following in March/April 2010.
If you would like to be a Beta Tester for the Windows software please email support@eigenlabs.com
Cheers
Aaron
Customer Support
What versions of Windows will be supported - i.e. XP, Vista, W7 or all?
Tony
Hi Tony,
We will be supporting XP and above.
Regards
Aaron
Customer Support
Actually (and Aaron is going to be annoyed with me now) we're just discussing what Windows we need to support. Consensus here (in the dev team) seems to be that Vista is so awful that very few people who have it will not upgrade, XP is very long in the tooth and Windows 7 actually seems sort of OK. We were considering just supporting Windows 7 after this discussion - it would really help us start with a cleaner code base and make testing a lot simpler to start with.
Does anyone here have an opinion on this? What is everyone running?
John
Hi John,
I used to be a windows user and can't really comment on the current state of affairs. However, people using the Eigenharp are probably not old-fashion and stuck in ancient OS releases. I wouldn't waste resources and time on XP and Vista, but indeed go straight for Windows 7 support. This will allow you to get something out quicker also. If you do get a lot of requests for the other versions from people that absolutely don't want to upgrade, you can still do the additional effort later on.
Just my 2c.
Take care,
Geert
I agree with just focussing on Windows 7. XP is a 10+ year old operating system, and is as problematic and inefficient as you can get. It would be like me expecting EigenD to run happily on OSX 10 or 10.1.
Another observation here, what kind of computer would people that are still running Windows XP or Vista have? Are these hardware configurations even powerful enough to run EigenD with the modeled instruments and a couple of VSTs comfortably? I doubt it.
That's an interesting issue, although further discussions here have revealed that we probably do have to support XP. We have a big effort in education planned this year and virtually all schools are still, and will probably remain for a while, XP. They are very conservative about change, understandably, and have lots of applications running on each machine, many of which do not yet run on Windows 7. The resource usage we'll probably deal with via a special education setup which is lighter on CPU and memory.
Thanks for the feedback - it does seem that we needn't worry too much about Vista, although as you've pointed out, it's XP that is the hassle to support.
John
"Another observation here, what kind of computer would people that are still running Windows XP or Vista have? Are these hardware configurations even powerful enough to run EigenD with the modeled instruments and a couple of VSTs comfortably? I doubt it.'
From what I've seen on the monome forum, very few PC users are on Windows 7. In fact out of all the questions we get regarding 7up, only 2 users I can remember being on Windows 7. They were having problems with monomeserial.
You could probably get away with Vista forward but pretty difficult to say Windows 7 only right now.
The other option is to officially support one while it unofficially will run on Vista.
If you guys don't release software on Vista, then I have one very expensive back scratcher.
I bought a mac to run my Eigenharp, and it's a decision I don't regret in the slightest. I remember the pain I had to go through to get low latency recording working on my vista machine with a crappy creative soundcard, with 3rd party ASIO drivers and a lot of trial and error. Under Mac OS 10.6 and an outboard audio interface, it plugged in and worked first time like a charm. While I would be interested in a potential windows release in order to get access to VSTs that are windows specific, I wouldn't dream of running EigenD on vista - it's just not worth the hassle.
Personally, I'd only look for Windows 7 support as I don't have the patience to work with any other version. Then again, my only Windows machine is a netbook... It would be nice to be able to use it for noodling when the big Mac is in use for other things.
Though with the educational thing, it looks like you're talking yourselves into supporting a range of configurations and code-bases! Best of luck!
"I bought a mac to run my Eigenharp, and it's a decision I don't regret in the slightest. I remember the pain I had to go through to get low latency recording working on my vista machine with a crappy creative soundcard, with 3rd party ASIO drivers and a lot of trial and error. Under Mac OS 10.6 and an outboard audio interface, it plugged in and worked first time like a charm. While I would be interested in a potential windows release in order to get access to VSTs that are windows specific, I wouldn't dream of running EigenD on vista - it's just not worth the hassle.'
OK, maybe I came across a bit more forcefully than I meant to..! I was just relating my experience with a particularly poor choice of card, and my own lack of experience.
I've been a windows man for a long time and like it just fine, and another part of the Mac purchasing decision was that it would be worth having a foot in both camps rather than believing the commercials.
I just get the impression though that Mac OS is designed a little more with audio and video content creation in mind, whilst windows (and particularly Vista which changed the audio and graphics driver architecture drastically from XP) is more focussed on audio playback for movies and games.
"I just get the impression though that Mac OS is designed a little more with audio and video content creation in mind, whilst windows (and particularly Vista which changed the audio and graphics driver architecture drastically from XP) is more focussed on audio playback for movies and games."
Admittedly, I've been out of the loop for 2-3 years, but I've never seen a Windows machine running pro-tools in a professional studio. Maybe this will change with Windows7 though.
\/\/\/ [Edit] Ah, thanks for that...
@stu, it's a bug in the forum, he's using quote and the style it sets up puts the following text in bold.
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