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OK I couldnt figure out how to make Reaktor work as an AU within EigenD properly as the parameter list contains hundreds of seemingly useless options when Reaktor is used. So I will recommend using pico as midi controller when wishing to use it with Reaktor.

The procedure:

Make sure you have at least one IAC virtual midi bus setup via OS X Audio Midi config utility.
Use the browser & pico to set EigenD to use the IAC midi port
Switch the pico to play instrument 8
Load reaktor and make sure it is set to listen to midi on the IAC bus
Load the SIlverwood patch into Reaktor
The Silverwood is listening for midi breath on a different midi cc to what the pico uses, so the patch needs slight modification, you only need to do this once and can then save the modified Silverwood:
In silverwood, look for the dropdown box labelled 'Air Source'.
Right-click on it and select 'Show in Structure'
You are now looking at the internals of the Silverwood patch
On the left there are 4 Controller patches below one called Air Source
Click on the second of the controller patches
We are going to change one of its properties so make sure you can see a window called Properties, press the icon in the toolbar that looks like a hand pointing at a card if you cannot see it.
Now in the property window click the icon that looks like some gears
In the midi section that appears, change the number in the controller/note box so that it says 17 instead of 2
Now press the toolbar icon that looks like some faders, to switch back to viewing the Silverwoods main controls.
Blow into the pico pipe and press some keys, you should now get a result.
Save Silverwood
If you see another control in Silverwood that you would like to control with the Pico, right click on it and select midi learn. Then use the appropriate controller on the pico, eg bending a key to the left.

There's obsession, and there's Pico. I'd say that Silverwood & Pico make a superb team. If only I could reduce the finickiness of the fingering for the instruments - you have to attack the key still rather than just touching it as I'd expect with a wind instrument. I just filled up my senses with the flute though... very happy bunny.

Im not sure if the pico can tell you have pressed keys if you touch them really gently. Certainly when flipping through options with the pico keys, it doesnt know you have pressed a key unless you attack it slightly. But unlike when playing in instrument mode, it does read the key if you apply more pressure to it later, after initially touching it only lightly. Maybe its just a software issue and they are currently filtering out really low sensor levels from key pressing, or maybe the keys themselves dont register an exceedingly light touch. It doesnt really affect me personally as I tend to always hit the keys with a certain amount of attack anyway, but now you have mentioned it I can see why it could be an issue. Note that silverwood itself does not do anything with note velocity as far as i know, so once you hit a key hard enough to register at all and send a midi note to the instrument, quite how much harder you hit it doesnt affect sound. I do like how certain of the silverwood presets are setup to use pitch bend for vibrato, growling etc, which works quite well with the pico.

Interesting. I used the following midi monitor software to investigate:

http://www.snoize.com/MIDIMonitor/

It looks to me like when you are pressing a key very gently it isnt sending a midi note on message at all, but rather modulation, pitch and note off messages.

I already have Reaktor and have downloaded the Silverwood ens but for the life of me I can't get it to work with the breath control of the Pico. I'm getting the note info through from the Pico but not the breath control. Steve, have you got this to work?

Nick

I used the custom setup but there is no release of the keys. So every note I play continues even after I release them and press other keys. It also continues playing after i switch instruments.

whoa - not a lot of breath controller patches?? There are quite a few actually. From an AU perspective there are products like this [http://www.samplemodeling.com/en/products_sax.php]
and there are hundreds of good voices for the relatively in expensive, available, Yamaha VL70. Also, I have many many sounds for the VL1. I really think it is a mistake to use a cc other than 2 for breath as it adds a layer of effort in using this rich legacy.

Personally, I'd like (in the fullness of time) an interface to assign whatever controllers one would like to the various bits of the eigenharps but it would sure be nice to start with the norms.

Something like an interface where one could set the cc for key left, right, up, and down either separately or as a single controller with a (user defined) centerpoint. (and yes - similar settings for ribbon, and breath (both suck and blow - imagine the harmonica patches)

As an aside, the VL models make use of not just breath but breath attack (the rate of change) to control things like growl or embouchure in their patches.

What exciting potential this new controller holds!

hello i'm a new user of pico, i try to insert custom pico 2 in my setup, i work on windows 7 pro and release 1.3.26, i have find setups in ressources/state and i put the custom pico in this file but i don't see him when i run eigend, if someone can help me, i have reaktor 5 and i want also to use breath controler with omnisphere.

i second the need for a saxophone model!

Thank you keyman for tour answer, it's good with the matrix but i want to use the breath controller of the pico, in cubase 6, with pico as midi controller . And for the setup i want to know where are the files on m'y hard disk of the user setup and custom setup.
Guillaume