@carvingCode
Hi Randy
Geert has now sanity checked all the Factory Setups to make sure that every one with a MIDI out has the appropriate browse button. There were a couple missing, thanks for pointing that out. He's added script browsing buttons too. The next release will have the updated setups in it.
I checked the Talker agent and the reference seems about right to me. The Talker agent is really simple, it just executes Belcanto commands when keys are pressed. Under the hood it's fiendishly complicated (in order to make those commands really fast), but there's absolutely no need at all to know about any of that and in fact making the documentation any more detailed than it needs to be seems to be very much against the tone of this thread.
Channels and Filters are a general properties of some Agents now, one that you mostly don't have to worry about, which is why they don't appear in the Talker manual page. I'll add something about them to the main EigenD description soon - it's a new concept and as far as Talkers go not particularly relevant. Channels are where an Agent can have multiple copies of itself in the signal flow, all sharing the same controls effectively, but where the signals are kept separate as the Agent processes them. This has always been possible (think of the envelope agent for example, it can have multiple parallel envelopes running at once) but we've bought it under a finer degree of control, made it more general and also made that more usable via control in Workbench. Filters are where you can select which channel you want from an upstream signal you want to use. There are uses for these concepts that are hard to do in other ways, I'll try and schedule a tutorial on it at some point to show this, but for now you can safely just ignore them - they're a feature that is potentially very powerful but that we aso quite like people to ignore for a bit while we make sure that it's right. I've also got to find a nice simple way to explain it. That is surprisingly difficult.
We will be returning to the Workbench tutorials as soon as we have the time. I think they're a good resource but they are very time consuming to do (couple of full time days each) so we can't afford to produce them at the rate we'd like. We also have a big change going in right now and Al is maxed out on the Stage interface for it, so it'll be a little while before he can get back to it. The intent is there though. We've also been discussing making a series in a similar style on the lines of 'starting off with your eigenharp'. Interested to hear what people think should go into that, and in what order.
@keyman
Hi Antonio
I had a look through that list of undocumented agents and they're all either experimental (ie, unfinished and in some kind of evolution: Orb, Latch, OSC), deprecated (Controller, Mico manager) or left over from long long ago and I have no idea if they even work OK any more (all the audio things). Some of them (pan pipe oscillator for example) I suspect work but are rubbish as they never had any love after being thrown in years ago before launch. You could have a play with them and see if they make a useful noise (I suspect the sax oscillator sounds like someone farting in a drainpipe, or at least that's kind of how I remember it) but if I don't hear any different we'll have a clean up soon and get rid of them. Or put them in some sort of 'attic' category where they can serve as starting points for any developer that wants to hack. A good sax oscillator would make an A1 project for someone keen who knows a little DSP.
Well done on finding them all btw, saved me a job!
John
UK
