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written by: geert

Hi Foveus,

The easiest way is to simply connect the MIDI signal from the MIDI Input agent in EigenD directly into the AudioUnit agent that runs the Guitar Rig plugin. You'll be able to MIDI learn anything that your Rig Control pedal send out, straight into Guitar Rig. Actually, thinking about it, if you're just using Guitar Rig as a plugin, no need to do that even. Instead of running Rig Control in 'controller' mode, you can directly have the Guitar Rig plugin detect it and use it immediately without using any of the EigenD infrastructure. A last possibility is to use the advanced features of the MIDI Input agent and create a wire that extracts a single MIDI CC message and turns it into an regular EigenD data stream. You can either do that through Belcanto (see the bottom of that wiki page) or in Workbench by simply filtering out the channel that has the same number as the CC message. The resulting data stream can then be connected to anything in EigenD, including AudioUnit agent parameters.

Hope this helps,

Geert

written by: geert

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:14:31 +0100 BST

As you all know, we've been extremely busy getting EigenD 2.0 out the door, now that that's done I'm finally able to set my mind on playing music again for a while.

Here's a cover of the theme from 'Game of Thrones' that I've been working on for a while (with very long breaks in between). The cello and the violin you're hearing are the built into EigenD and tweaked a bit in terms of frequency and convolution. The rest are samples, 'Epic Toms' and 'Requiem Pro' from 8DIO, I'm also using Mobius for audio looping. All tracks were recorded independently on separate tracks and then mixed afterwards.

Hope you enjoy this version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF38B38dSHo


written by: carvingCode

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:10:18 +0100 BST

Nice demonstration of the cello and strip controller usage.

Would be interested in hearing more about your use of Mobius.

BTW: Game of Thrones is one of my favorite TV shows. Books are pretty good also. ;)

Randy


written by: MarkPowell

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:25:28 +0100 BST

That's a coincidence - I literally finished building a loop controller footboard last night with view to using it with Mobius. Just having my first play now; it's working really nicely and is pretty easy to play with, but I'm nowhere near that fantastic piece of work - bravo!

What's the pedal if you don't mind me asking Geert - is it an NI Rig Kontrol?


written by: geert

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 23:00:12 +0100 BST

Hi Mark,

Yes it's the NI Rig Kontrol, it's pretty good as a MIDI foot pedal and quite competant for audio output if latency is not an issue, audio input isn't that good. It's one of the first things I got when going to a computer-based solution, nice to see that I can still get some use out of it as a foot pedal.

Take care,

Geert


written by: MarkPowell

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 23:22:27 +0100 BST

I thought it looked familiar. I was looking at either one of those in MIDI mode or an FCB1010, which also seem well respected for the price. Then our fridge died and I got a big tax bill, so instead I've cobbled something together out of bits that I had left over from past projects. As such, my current foot controller is an old pine shelf, a load of arcade buttons and an Arduino to send the MIDI over a USB serial connection. I didn't have any great hopes for it and was going to just use it as a stop-gap, but it's working really well, so I might end up sticking with it.

Cheers,
Mark.


written by: geert

Tue, 11 Sep 2012 06:53:05 +0100 BST

Must be fun to build it yourself and if it work well all the more satisfying!


written by: dhjdhj

Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:07:09 +0100 BST

Very cool --- would you be willing to describe how you did this? It looks to me like you were playing parts which then started looping, but I didn't see (for example) how the choir part was created.


written by: geert

Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:23:32 +0100 BST

The choir part is a second instrument that I activated together with the Cello by selecting it on the percussion keys. This sampler instrument requires changing the playing style a bit so that it works with both, but that allows it to be played live. I tweaked the choir to say different syllables in round-robin that fit the type of music.


written by: Foveus

Mon, 29 Oct 2012 19:44:50 +0000 GMT

Out of curiosity, can the Rig Kontrol pedal be used as a wah/effects pedal when playing Guitar Rig guitar sounds with the eigenharp? And if not, does anyone have a good solution for accomplishing this?


written by: geert

Tue, 30 Oct 2012 01:02:34 +0000 GMT

Yes it works, no problem.


written by: Foveus

Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:15:00 +0000 GMT

If you don't mind Geert could you explain how you have the Rig Kontrol set up? I'm probably missing something very obvious but I can't quite figure out how the eigenharp interfaces with the Rig Kontrol since it was designed to be used with a real guitar/bass via a patch cord. I would love to incorporate a real-time Guitar Rig effects pedal into my Alpha setup but I want to be sure this will work similarly to a real guitar and pedal. Any guidance with this is much appreciated.


written by: geert

Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:34:21 +0000 GMT

Hi Foveus,

The easiest way is to simply connect the MIDI signal from the MIDI Input agent in EigenD directly into the AudioUnit agent that runs the Guitar Rig plugin. You'll be able to MIDI learn anything that your Rig Control pedal send out, straight into Guitar Rig. Actually, thinking about it, if you're just using Guitar Rig as a plugin, no need to do that even. Instead of running Rig Control in 'controller' mode, you can directly have the Guitar Rig plugin detect it and use it immediately without using any of the EigenD infrastructure. A last possibility is to use the advanced features of the MIDI Input agent and create a wire that extracts a single MIDI CC message and turns it into an regular EigenD data stream. You can either do that through Belcanto (see the bottom of that wiki page) or in Workbench by simply filtering out the channel that has the same number as the CC message. The resulting data stream can then be connected to anything in EigenD, including AudioUnit agent parameters.

Hope this helps,

Geert



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