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Hi.

I watched one of Geert's latest videos (Pico+analogue synth setup), and he was setting up his own courses from scratch using Workbench, and it looked pretty simple to do (which tempted me to consider saving up for a copy of EigenD Pro - though it might take a little while).

I'm wondering if someone with Workbench and a Tau could help me out with what I believe is a fairly simple setup file?

I'm looking to have 4 separate horizontal courses running up the entirety of the Tau instead of the current 3 course mode, and to have the octave change buttons and record buttons completely removed. The idea is to be able to play up to 4 separate instruments at the same time.

If anyone can help out, I'd be eternally grateful. :)

[edit] Ooops, I was meant to have posted this in the Tau subforum.

Hi Randy. Thanks for the fast reply.

1. I think AU's are the direction I'm going to be going in, running EigenD as the host. I'm not going to be using the built-in sequencing or recording features of EigenD - instead opting for Mobius for the live looping.

2. I'm going to be resting the Tau in a horizontal position on a desk. Ideally, I'd love for the percussion keys to be where the left hand is, with the scales on all of the courses to move in intervals away from the percussion keys (so completely reversed to how it is at the moment). One problem might be the 8 extra keys on the bottom two registers, but I believe the courses can be set up with minus figures for those - so that the courses line up further up the keyboard?

3. I'm using just major/minor scales at the moment, though I plan to experiment with expanding on this. I'm going to use a Roland FC-200 and a Behringer FCB1010 pedalboard to control a lot of the functionality of the Tau with regards to switching keys/scales.

I notice that the default TAU setup allows for 4 AU's. Can this be expanded to allow for a 5th AU for the percussion keys?

I hope this makes it a little clearer :)
Many thanks.

[edit] Should I have used the term 'keygroup' instead of course?

Hi Geert. I find it really hard to write words when relapsing with the illness, so apologies if my attempts weren't clear.

I've just made an image which will hopefully explain what I'm looking for:
Proposed layout

And yes, I don't want any record or octave changing buttons on there.

I've also decided to upgrade to EigenD 2.0 when I'm next paid, so this should hopefully be my only request for a custom setup.

Thanks

Thanks so much Randy :)

Yeah, if it's going to be a hassle, lets make the 8 keys octave up/down keys for AU1-AU4. I did an amended layout image here.

Thanks again :)

Thanks Geert. Much appreciated.

I'm going to juggle a few things around financially and upgrade to Pro in a week or so. I have a feeling that I could really utilise workbench to create custom setups for my limited playing position. Your latest video gave me a very tasty glimpse of workbench and the possibilities contained within.

It's only recently that I've fully appreciated the amount of effort, design, innovation, faith and quality re: the instruments and the software. I watched John's presentation on the Eigenkey last night 3 times back-to-back, and my jaw just dropped hearing how much effort was made for the spring alone. I now fully understand how the key operates, and it has allowed me to connect with the instrument in a much deeper way this evening.

This is a truly revolutionary instrument.

Mind blown.

:)

Thanks Randy :)

I'm in no major rush, so please don't stress yourself in any way re: this. I was having so much fun with the 2 and 3 course modes last night and experimenting with tweaking the settings using Stage.

I have a lot to play with and a lot to learn, and I appreciate the love of delayed gratification (It's taken me 6-7 to be at this stage of being able to play my music again)... I hope you weathered the storm well.

Thanks a lot :) I have run into a bit of a problem though.

I've just upgraded Alchemy from the Camel site, and successfully put the setup file in the right place, and I'm using v2 of EigenD. The setup loads, the lights change, but it doesn't load the audio units.

I've just done a fresh scan of VST plugins, and even removed the link to the specific eigenlab VST directory (instead pointing to the camel audio directory). The plugin seems to load ok. I also tried a complete system restart.

Does EigenD look for the Alchemy VST using a fixed pathname? If so, would I need mine to mirror yours? (I'm using Windows btw)

Think i'm aboard this "train to help" Stuart too.

is the right audio out "interface" selected??

About loading the VST... with workbench you can select it from within
Other ideas:
@Randy
with STAGE Import one AU (from previous versions) unlook it and drop from the list of agent into the widgets
Use Belcanto.... but I don't know how the setup was built (could have a look and figure it out, thought)

@Randy

Things I've run into:
(could be a setup more polished... believe me I know it takes time)
- AU audio outputs into console mixer are mono
- console mixer Main outputs only left CH is used

Belcanto to browse the AU/VST 1 (as always Eigenbrowser and EigenCommader as to be running

eigenbrowser , interpreter hey
audio unit 1 plugin browse

to browse the scripts:

eigenbrowser , interpreter hey
script browse

@stuwyatt
think with this belcanto you can browse for the AU/VST 1-2-3-4-5

to gain AU/VST 1 Plugin Browse funtionality in STAGE you have to have a talker that "say's" this phrase
audio unit 1 plugin browse
((and then add a trigger button))

something like this
talker to Plugin Browse

@stuwyatt -

Here's an updated setup file:

Tau - Special Setup for stuwyat

It includes a Stage tab with AU/VST controls. You should be able to browse for plugins for all 5 audio units in the setup (be sure to open the EigenBrowser first). The Stage tab is not complete, but should have most of the necessary items, such as volume, pan, octave, tonic.

This should get you started.

Randy