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written by: motic

Hi Randy, yep.. that's me too.."Jumping Jack Flash", trying to 'ride' 9 engines on a Kronos and on top of that 'getting sucked in' in the Eigen-World, he he... i will not die bored, that's for sure ;-D
!! Live to ride - Ride to live !!
It's like i have an in build 'searchlight' for difficult things my all life and you are very right, i spend a little too much time behind forums these days, should get more behind the keys, no matter what keys they are!
Too late for me, never chose the easiest way all my life and probably (definitely) will discard it this time too, as 'i know my nature'.
Very good tips there, though!, thank you.
People, listen to him!!
Downside is the 'price', upside is the 'expanding never ending knowledge'...
my balance always leans to the right as the left gets heavier.
Not planning to become an 'Eigen-Virtuoso', anyway, just want to have fun and learn as much as i can!
It is very good forums like this exists... and is good people is willing to help others...
Plannin' on Workbenchin' ;-)

Moreno

written by: motic

Wed, 18 Jul 2012 02:01:06 +0100 BST

Can't find anything in forum or wiki...
Is it possible to adjust the sideway (horizontal) sensitivity of the keys, as with the pitch bend (vertical) in Stage or with something else?

Moreno


written by: keyman

Wed, 18 Jul 2012 05:23:30 +0100 BST

Hi Moreno,
In "Eigenland" vertical is roll - normally connected with pitch bend and horizontal is yaw.

If it's the curve you would like to adjust, much like the pitch bend curve found in STAGE, there are different ways to achieve this if you playing with the Samplers or AU and MIDI using the Routing Matrix
Please let me know what direction...

keyman


written by: motic

Wed, 18 Jul 2012 10:55:40 +0100 BST

Hey keyman, yep.. meant YAW and indeed the use of the Routing Matrix is probably (definitely) the answer.
Still 'very' in the learning mode here and had already given a look at it but didn't 'fiddled' with it yet, trying first to understand what i'm doing and what is 'what', if you know what i mean ;-)
Ok, that's for the midi side of it... and ... i can probably not only assign but also adjust 'how much?... tried with vst but without the result i hoped for (dim the yaw threshold cause that side of it is to sensible for a starter).
Got the Roll in Stage to 0.5 (0.3 would be better, but only possible in 1.4.12 and not in 2.0.56) and is in some way satisfactory for the time been and want to do the same for the YAW, for AU's and Sampler's, so in general.
Thanks for the info so far

Moreno


written by: keyman

Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:16:30 +0100 BST

There is no other way then to try and assimilate as much as possible!!
This Forum helps a lot as joining one os the weekly G+ hangouts, There is a group of user very active on Google G+ here's mine http://gplus.to/keymanpal and there are two hangouts weekly:
- Monday 16h CET
- Wednesday 19h CET (unconfirmed)

About what you say "... Got the Roll in Stage to 0.5 (0.3 would be better..." you just have to "unlock" STAGE (upper left corner) and Select the edit tool, then change the step value, you can even use something like 0.001 or smaller...

Everything in STAGE is user configurable!! add / edit/ remove widgets, just explore a bit...

Happy STAGE exploring!!


written by: motic

Wed, 18 Jul 2012 18:25:20 +0100 BST

Thnx Antonio, that's what i needed: a good kick in the right direction!
Read about self made layouts but couldn't find a way to... and now i did!
Followed a few session from Geert and actually thought he was the only one, good to know you do it too.
So, back to Stage'in'!... this is getting more and more interesting by the minute!
Thanks again
Moreno


written by: keyman

Wed, 18 Jul 2012 19:20:59 +0100 BST

So.... long story short; (never tried it before) and maybe this post about and with an free Ibook can also help

Belcanto is the foundation of EigenD and what connects/interacts with it. STAGE "reveals" what can be configured in terms of amounts and so can each tab can reflect whatever setting there is to be tweaked.
Did you jumble around the wiki for STAGE ??

Keep every minute Eigeninteresting!!


written by: motic

Wed, 18 Jul 2012 20:11:43 +0100 BST

Yeah, i've seen the thread to the ipads 'Exploring the Eigenharp', but unwilling to update the system on mine (reason: i like my layout like it is now,,,jailbreaked 4.2) couldn't make use of it after downloading... shame!
Didn't like to go further learning Belcanto cause, as i read about, Eigenlabs will not go further on that path but more on Stage and Workbench... use Belcanto sometimes, like to use the illuminator on my TAU and still not comprehending Workbench yet... again, there is so much to learn... so many possibilities...
Only need is 'time'... EigenBlasting Time!!
Moreno


written by: carvingCode

Wed, 18 Jul 2012 22:17:19 +0100 BST

@motic - Hi! There's a lot to this Eigen-thing. It is confounding to know which path to go down as you see the connectedness of them all. Frankly, I would pick one, i.e.: Routing Matrix, Stage, Belcanto, Workbench, etc. and stick with it until you feel like you are knowledgeable. Then move to another.

It may take you several days, or several weeks, to become comfortable with one of the aspects of the Harp. That's OK. You'll be better able to understand concepts of the next one you move two. I've made the mistake of jumping around too much and have paid the price.

Above all, make sure you are playing music with the Harp. Technical fiddling is fun, but probably not why you bought the Harp.

Randy


written by: motic

Thu, 19 Jul 2012 04:31:01 +0100 BST

Hi Randy, yep.. that's me too.."Jumping Jack Flash", trying to 'ride' 9 engines on a Kronos and on top of that 'getting sucked in' in the Eigen-World, he he... i will not die bored, that's for sure ;-D
!! Live to ride - Ride to live !!
It's like i have an in build 'searchlight' for difficult things my all life and you are very right, i spend a little too much time behind forums these days, should get more behind the keys, no matter what keys they are!
Too late for me, never chose the easiest way all my life and probably (definitely) will discard it this time too, as 'i know my nature'.
Very good tips there, though!, thank you.
People, listen to him!!
Downside is the 'price', upside is the 'expanding never ending knowledge'...
my balance always leans to the right as the left gets heavier.
Not planning to become an 'Eigen-Virtuoso', anyway, just want to have fun and learn as much as i can!
It is very good forums like this exists... and is good people is willing to help others...
Plannin' on Workbenchin' ;-)

Moreno



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